Hello,
I noticed on all my NewsPaper Themed websites (7 websites with different structures), that since Google update on their Core Web Vitals Assessment, the status on Mobile is Failed because of Interaction to Next Paint (INP). On Desktop it’s fined.
I’m using WP Rocket to make sure everything is optimized but it looks like it’s not enough to fix the issue.
I’m sure your team is looking into that, and maybe you have an estimated time of update to fix this ?
Please don’t answer anything like “have a look at those links to optimize speed”, nor write me “speed is not part of our assistance”.
Thanks
Hello,
Due to the fact that it was added recently, we cannot yet say what steps we have to take to optimize it. From what we have checked, you have an average score of around 230ms on websites, which can be subject to change in the future and potentially be lowered.
Thank you for understanding!
Hi All,
INP was not only recently added, so Anamaria is incorrect. INP only recently became a mandatory factor.
INP has been available for a long time (at least 6 months) to test/see. Therefore the data was available to figure out what in Newspaper causes its poor score.
It is shame it was not fixed by March 2024, when INP became a mandatory factor.
Judging from poor INP on some of our websites, it can be caused by mobile menu, mobile search and modal pop-up blocks. There can of course be a number of other blocks/factors that cause it eg java driven items etc.
Also remember Google guidelines are generally recommendations and not ‘gospel’– they keep trying to control the web, but their ad platform breaks all of their own guidelines, among other things that get abandoned (like so many of us leaving AMP as stupid idea for most sites). Grain of salt.
Hello @Alex
I checked your website and it seems that you run ads, to reduce the resources, I recommend using WP Rocket plugin to optimize the scripts https://i.imgur.com/CXm3M4A.png -> https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-www-fightmag-com/4cmtkp35p0?form_factor=mobile
Also, please enable this option for the single post featured image https://i.imgur.com/hKSRSOZ.png
Furthermore, we make modifications and optimizations, but this is not just about the theme and the server you have, what plugins you use, and what optimizations you have made.
Thank you!
Hi @Anamaria,
We used WP Rocket before and had a conversation with WP Rocket support team. To date, Newspaper and WP Rocket do not properly work together.
The preload function is for single post featured image. This feature doesn’t seem to properly work with EWWW plugin. I will make a new thread when finish testing.
Our server is optimised, as well as the theme.
– This thread (which was not started by me) is about the poor INP poor performance. It is the theme’s elements that make it fail (buttons, popups, mobile menu, comment form fields etc). It fails on your main demo – mobile origin – Despite you used a mobile page for home page, INP fails throughout your whole demo website.
You should probably improve the theme, so it meets the required criteria in 2024. It currently does not.
Dear @Anamaria,
Thanks for taking the time to answers us.
I share the same concern as Alex to be honest. The fact that even your demo account is failing the INP performance is very concerning. The fact that it does not look like a prio to you is even more concerning.
Without clear feedback that you’ll tackle this soon, I’ll look for Themes alternatives that comply with this criteria.
@simchris I know it might seem extreme, but still today Google is King and if they request fast INP, we should adapt to it. Period.
Thanks for your help,
Hello,
This parameter behaves differently; in some demos, it appears as valid, while in others, it does not https://i.imgur.com/2H3Pbl4.png. I have informed the developers to look into this situation and make improvements.
Thank you!
Hi @Anamaria,
These are two different things: URL and Origin.
The one you are showing is “This URL”, means it passes only for this URL.
To be noted, “this URL” you are presenting does not have any external java (adsesne etc), which is why it passes, as java is one of the major factors to slowdown the pagr. The majority of publishers have ads enabled, which is a standard practise. And with ads enabled, the majority unfortunately would have CWV failed with Newspaper.
Also this post you made confuses the topic of this thread, as you are now talking about an an overall CWV score for the particular URL, other than dealing with the INP issue that is poor throughout Newspaper.
Hello @Alex,
If you use ads, it’s your own choice, which is unrelated to the theme. Yes, we have several demos with good scores, and they are optimized, but it’s still recommended to make configurations and necessary optimizations regardless of which prebuilt website you use.
INP is related to mouse clicks, taps, and key presses. Now, if you have pop-ups with ads, it’s your choice. As I’ve mentioned before, you need to make the necessary optimizations regardless of which prebuilt website or theme you use https://i.imgur.com/z9rLkxK.png
Another very important aspect is that we offer support, even if you haven’t extended the support, and we try to help, and even page speed is not covered by the support team.
Thank you!
Hi Anamaria,
Thanks for following up.
To get back to the INP issue which is my only concern, I actually don’t use any ads on my site. And the template used is really simple, that’s why I’m very concerned with the results.
I can share URL in private if it can help because I spent already many hours with WP Rockets trying to find solutions but nothing works.
Hello @Anamaria,
Now you have shared a screenshot with a good INP score for desktop. Nobody reported that there was an issue with a poor INP score. So this is irrelevant.
As previously stated twice: The issue is with INP on mobile. The issue is with Newspaper theme. Your main demo that is “optimized” does not meet the required criteria for origin.
You can deny it as much as you want, try to confuse by involving prebuilt websites that no one mentioned, blame it on ads etc.
Either way, it doesn’t change the fact that the issue is with the theme.
Another very important aspect is that we offer free support to you by testing and outlining the bugs and issues in your theme so you can improve it.
Same problem here…
I think your devs should definitively look for optimisation for INP on mobile…
