Slow administration

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Hi, i just installed newsmag theme, site load fast, but in administration everything is extreme slow. Saving ONE article takes even 2 minutes. Is there anything to do?

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Hi

Usually saving settings or updating post should be done really quick, so it’s possible to have an internal problem on your side. Try to deactivate all plugins except Visual Composer and test again, if the problem persist try to find a better host because the theme should work with the same speed of other theme’s on back-end.

Thanks!

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Im using this theme on site with 200.000 unique visitors per month and working as editor is so so so SLOOOOWWWWWW. Its not the hosting site becouse we use 3 separate dedicated servers cost 1200 EUR/month.

  • This reply was modified 9 years by fpavic.
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Super fast on our system running 20 sites with millions of unique visitors per month; dedicated server.

Lots of possible reason it impacts YOUR setup(s):
With fully updated WP (4.6x branch), disable “bad” plugins that modify admin screens not updated for latest versions of WP.

So, a bad admin mod plugin might do dumb stuff like load custom fonts (new WP uses native fonts), load jquery more than once; using external tools like Jetpack, stats plugins, etc can slooooow site down — not related to theme.

External plugins which do content checks, bad Yoast SEO settings, plugins that try to rewrite/optimize images you upload “in post” can all slow things down (e.g., better to upload media via media manager separately, THEN place in posts).

Often checking your admin pages with F12/console for broken things, or things loading more than once is useful.

Also make sure your cache is cleared in browser, make sure you’re not using adblock on your own admin panels, or some funky extension in your browser, etc.

Make sure you’re not having portions of your admin loaded via CDN, separate from local stuff due to timestamp mis-matches; make sure not blocking portions of your admin via robots.txt or htaccess, or using a minification or optimization plugin on your admin pages — all that stuff BREAKS things.

But to be clear, I can say we have super busy 15 year old news portals, udpated daily, using this theme highly optimized, and having zero issues with admin panels. Just as point of reference.

(( I don’t work here. ))

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We tried all that – still ADMIN is SLOW. Ive tried to desable all plugins – still slow

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Sorry, probably unique to your setup.

Only time we’ve had admin issue in 11 years with WP, using 100+ themes was bad plugin, bad hosting setup or using one of those dorky “frameworks” that add a whole extra layer between theme, WP and admin panel.

Keep massaging your setup — if your site admin is speedy using another theme, but slow using this one, then there is some oddity there, to be sure, but that is NOT normal.

One presumes you have gobs of RAM allocated to WP, expanded your php timeout and uploads settings, gzip/deflate working right, opcache/memcache properly working, no oddball cookies or cookie blocking issues, correct http/https setup, etc.

Just throwing out ideas… 🙂

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Hi


@fpavic
I’ve checked your site and I’ve noticed that you’re using cache for front-end content. This helps a lot when the page is prepared and the response time is lower.
With the back-end things can be more complicated. If you have lots of posts the response from database can be slower so you can try to optimize it first. Check this link for more details in this regard: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/query-cache.htmlhttp://www.wpbeginner.com/plugins/how-to-clean-up-your-wordpress-database-for-improved-performance/

You can also make a test with a default wp-theme and check how it goes.
Let us know how it goers and if you still have this issue please address via email at contact@tagdiv.com and provide wp-admin and ftp access so we ca have a closer look in your wp-install and maybe we can help.
Thanks!

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With Yoast SEO plugin is slow.
Without Yoast Seo plugin it is fast.

My experience.

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Yes. That can be one issue; I personally turn off all the extras in Yoast, especially the ‘onepage’ thing, and also turn off all the boxes on admin front page, un-used plugin boxes on post page, and don’t show featured image on the post list screen, etc.

But again, it varies by server WHAT might be causing stuff. Usually it’s ajax, jquery, cache, or plugin that affects admin panels in some way (permissions, user roles, modify the admin panels, or anything that phones home for info like jetpack stats, etc.).

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We dont use Yoast or any SEO plugin. Those are active addons:

Adblock Notify
Add featured image to RSS feed
Advanced Custom Fields
AJAX Thumbnail Rebuild
Akismet
Alexa Certify
Allow Multiple Accounts
AMP
Auto Refresh Single Page
Contact Form 7
Cookie Notice
Corner Ad
Custom Login
Disable WP Auto Formatting
Facebook Comments Plugin
Germanix Translate
Germanix URL
Google AdSense
Google Authenticator
Heartbeat Control
Jetpack by WordPress.com
Liveblog
Media File Renamer
Mega Ad
NextGEN Gallery
NextGEN Gallery Optimizer
Polldaddy Polls & Ratings
Popups – WordPress Popup
Redirection
Slider Revolution
tagDiv Social Counter
W3 Total Cache
WP Google Map Plugin
WP Missed Schedule
WPBakery Visual Composer

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35 plugin ????? OMG! They are too many friend.

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With turned off every single one by one and all together – the same slow stuff

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this is time needed to open add new article

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HI

Did you also test this with a default wp-theme? You can try and check how it goes.
Thanks!

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Generic theme – super fast. Previous theme that we used from Gabfire – turbo fast. Just this theme is making the problems for us but we have to use it bcs its the best 🙂

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You are probably aware, but having multiple browser tabs open often slows things down, contrary to the supposed sandboxing. I’ve run into this where one tab locked up due to Facebook or an ecom site due to all the cookies, active updates, notify attempts, tracking, etc.

Probably not the issue. But I have run into that. Especially with Safari. Chrome, too. Firefox is a p.o.s. for most things, which is why I refuse to use it anymore. My PCs have only been compromised twice in 20 years, both with FF.

Sorry – no help, just observation looking at video 🙂

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@fpavic
please check this link, it may be helpful on this matter: http://wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/230077/wordpress-admin-is-incredibly-slow
Your site hits a high traffic and if I am correct you also have many posts. In this case you will need a lot of RAM memory and a high performance server. A simple math show that your site hits more then 6000 visitors per day and in this case are required minim 4GB of RAM for your server.

Thanks!

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My server is Xeon E31230 @ 3.20GHz, 8 GB RAM, 2 x 1000 GB ent. SATA
WP Memory Limit – 512 MB/request
post_max_size – 20M

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Hi

The server configuration seems to be fine.
We made some tests in the past with 70.000 posts in db and the theme worked almost fine, the delays in admin were no bigger then 3-4 seconds, but I have to mention that we didn’t had the amount of traffic as your site does.

Debugging this issue on such a big site is not an easy task and also require a lot of time and some specific skills. The best way would be to make clone of the site on a development domain if possible and try to debug there this issue. When the site grows like this it’s also recommended to contact a person who can handle issues related with server configuration, memory spikes or conflicts between themes and plugins.
If you can setup a clone on your site let us know and also give as admin to it so we can have a closer look and make some additional tests. We would prefer a test site to void any possible issues which may occur while we make the tests.

WordPress makes a lot of requests to database in admin panel and the response time is very much influenced by how well is database optimized. Here I’ve found some informations which may help for a good optimization: https://code.tutsplus.com/tutorials/speed-up-wordpress-caching-and-database-optimization–cms-22055https://www.keycdn.com/blog/speed-up-wordpress/
You can also contact your host provider and ask him if he have some specific suggestion to optimize the database and also for php.
It may also be helpful a tool for monitoring the queries, an example would be https://wordpress.org/plugins/query-monitor/ or https://wordpress.org/plugins/p3-profiler/screenshots/ From the reviews I’ve noticed that these plugins are very useful in this regard.
Another important aspects is the authors/editors numbers. Do you have many of them, also many of them are simultaneously logged in on the site and perform actions? If many users are logged in the queries made by wp and are multiplied and server need to handle a bigger load.

Thanks!

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Note if you have 8GB of RAM and this is your main site you can increase the RAM for WP up to 1GB. I did this for our “main” big site (16 years old!). Really helped. Post max size /upload max = 50M; php execution time and max input time = 400.

We’re still running php 5.4.16, but will be testing php 7.0.10 for January switcheroo.

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