hello,
you are saying that you are running the “Same hosting, same pages, same plugins, same posts, same videos, same images”
let me tell you that http://hdslr.com.br/ makes 70 request insted of 34 http://screencast.com/t/zjhZFxibvV8 . A lot of them are not even files from the newspaper theme. At least some of them like those are taking 4 seconds to load in total: http://screencast.com/t/jQuXfvdRFh . The files in question are form a plugin called form maker that is not present on your other site.
Make sure that you really have the same plugins installed when you compare versions. Marius already pointed out that you have some additional plugins on the slow one.
Hi Radu
Yes. Those are the Same hosting, pages, plugins,posts,videos, images because I want to change from hdslr.com.br to filmmaker.com.br (HDSLR now has more posts because every day I write one or two post)
You can notice that there are less plugins in filmamaker than hdslr.com.br
I copied the database for HDSLR to Filmmaker, the only change was upgrading the theme in Filmmaker.
The HDSLR blog has over 60,000 visits per month, and do not want to miss
HDSLR plugins:
https://www.diigo.com/item/image/4fiou/86v5
Filmmaker plugins:
https://www.diigo.com/item/image/4fiou/ho9g
thank you
@Marija1m1 I would recommend to only use the full page cache module. The other stuff isn’t doing much to speed up the theme
Radu HDSLR.com.br is 1000x FASTER then FilmMaker.com.br
the plugin “form maker”is only on HDSLR
Filmmaker.com.br V1.7.1
HDSLR.com.br v1.0.1
Just heads up to folks worrying about page speed, one great resource you may already be aware of is my friends at GT in Canada who built a neat testing tool years back, here: http://gtmetrix.com/
Paste in any page URL from your site, such as a post page, and it will tell your speed scores with Google PageSpeed and Yahoo Yslow – but also give you suggestions on various things you can fix; particularly useful is looking at number of calls for some plugins that “dial out” for avatars, social media, etc.
Keeping in mind that most WP themes may have too many calls to CSS files, and some plugins add more, which they shouldn’t (I’ve got one called ‘external links’ right now, and not using any of the CSS in the plugin, but he still loads another style sheet, not needed – having to bug him to remove that …) …
Anyway… it’s a good reference to some of the issues folks run into prior to optimization. YOu can create free account, then run a scan, and then when you tweak, you can come back and rerun test, and see improvements over time.
It’s more useful than running Google Page Speed insights, as it actually provides tips and exmaples on how to actually address each issue, along with explanations – which Google does in a roundabout or confusing way or not at all (meaning Google penalizes your page speed for their own AdSense content … which is hilarious … “you should fix this” – and it’s their content that needs fix!).
I’ve spent 3 months optimizing our main business site (not using WordPress) which has been an adventure; now starting on the WordPress stuff.
I can tell you from experience that Radu and co are doing an amazing job with optimization within the confines of the WordPress setup which inherently has numerous flaws for SEO, like the method for CSS redirect used in the child themes (WP core devs keep using a method not recommended by the rest of the universe … for example).
So, there is a *lot* going on with WP, which *no* theme maker can fully address, only tweak and you need to research common problems and workarounds for *ALL* WP based installs when concerned with Page Speed.
For instance, I do *NOT* use JetPack myself as it “phones home” all over the place and slows things down. SO, every little spinning widget and flashing light and cannon blasting all slow down the page. If you want the most speed with WP, you need to have the simplest layout possible, ala Newspaper, for this kind of site, and then optimize the heck out of all your images, minimize anything that calls out to other sites (like FB comments box), certain JetPack things, and anything that doesn’t run in async with javascript, and avoid plugins which add more CSS style sheets and can’t inherent code, or properly write custom CSS into the head INLINE, not as yet another external style sheet!
Just some suggestions, somebody may find useful as a WP user since 2005, and webdev since 1994.
I deleted all and reinstall wordpress , database and theme from hdslr.com.br ( still with the version 1,0,1)
Just sent the new version via FTP. Same post, same pages, same plugins. All the same
– Internet speed 35Mbps
– v1.0.1 = 8,16seconds
– v1.7.2 = 24,16seconds
@helder the discussion is moved here: https://forum.tagdiv.com/topic/real-theme-speed-v1-0-1-vs-v1-7-2/
Hello there,
About page speed, i read a FAQ https://forum.tagdiv.com/how-to-make-the-site-faster/ and found:
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make sure that you have compression enabled on your site for html/js/css but not for images
What is the best plugin for html/js/css compression which is compatible with Newspaper?
Thanks,
Sandall
Thanks for the reply Christopher, i tried them all together and got a fatal error and when researching about the error online many sites mention a conflict with using the same files or something, all very complicated! It seems W3 Total Cache is working the best for me. Only issue i got now is database connection error which usually happens every couple of weeks!
@Thakksy
Yeah. It’s an adventure. Wasted most of this past January just on this kind of thing.
May not apply to your setup, but often that database connection error is from MySQL/PHP getting overloaded (‘the database has gone away’). Be sure to increase the memory limit for your hosting account. Sometimes the default is 32MB or 64MB, and really should be 128 or 256. (Mine is 1MB, but dedicated server).
I think with most of the cache plugins, there should be an option to use APC on/off, unless I’m mistaken. I think on our box we have to point the app at the APC location or somesuch. Sorry, I forget. Often you can check with your hosting provider, as this has become a common question now. Not like 5 years ago, where the typical hosting company wouldn’t even want to deal with WP questions.
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simchris.
thanks for the information, decided to delete speed booster as the site didn’t display correctly in IE but was fine in Chrome! Just gonna stick to Total Cache. Changed my PHP memory too using a php.ini file and a day after i changed it to 128mb i had another database connection error, lol!
@Thakksy
at this point likely good idea to look at your error logs to see WHAT is happening when you get a database connection error. For example, you might have somebody attacking your site and using up resources which is another cause of dbase connection error (it last happened to us during the U S SuperBowl). This means blocking the site(s) which are using up your resources, such as port scan, or loading/scanning all your site resources over and over.
For us the dbase connection issue has always been
1) not enough memory, had to fix this with move to new web server in Dec/Jan – upgrade the “defaults”
2) overload the dbase from some bad search spider hitting the entire site over and over… you can try to “throttle” that – I think there is a directive for robots.txt for Bing and some others (or use IPTables to limit concurrent connections) to say only load one page per minute– but no guarantee it will be followed.
With (2) you can often look at your logs to see WHO is doing bad behavior, or some spider which is using your search engine to troll site for content bits, etc.
Hope that helped a little.
hi,
can you past your configuration for w3? i installed td_sppedbost + w3total but google speed give me 54/100 for mobile and 83/100 for desktop.
all problems are css/js above the fold.
so.. i don’t know which is the best way to set w3 totale cache.
please esport your settings and give me the file.
i’m on dedicated server.
My site is now performing really well, i removed w3 total cache and speed booster. Actually when i was using speed booster the color of my main menu links and icons would display in black and the white which i chose so couldn’t use it anyway! In chrome it worked fine.
Hi,
I’m trying to improve the performance of my site (http://admitto.nl), which is now at 49% for mobile and 65% for desktop with Pagespeed). This is however the max I’ve been able to reach. Do you have any more tips or tricks?
Im using the Newspaper theme with the following plugins:
ClickDesk Live Chat
Contact Form 7
Google Analytics Dashboard
Hide Title
MailPoet Newsletters
Custom Anti-Spam
Recent Tweets Widget
Share buttons by AddtoAny
tagDiv Social Counter
tagDiv speed booster
W3 Total Cache
Wordpress SEO
WP-Optimize
WPBakery Visual Composer
WP Smush.it
I know these are a lot of plugins, but I don’t think they influence the performance that bad. Pagespeed is mainly complaining about compressing CSS/JS. Any ideas here?
Thanks in advance!
@laehaem
please see the sticky topic at top of the forum, which has a wealth of info about optimizing your server, content, images, and whatnot to achieve best speed.
If your speed is that low it’s likely you have not addressed couple of the most important things for ALL WordPress sites:
1) expiration headers; which can be added via htaccess on Apache servers
2) gzip/deflate running on your server, which auto-compresses all content fed to the web browsers
Those two items are good for about 20 points alone; and is the most common problem with a speed of 65.
If you use GTMetrix to test a post page on your site, make note of the “server” items in the report, as those will be your main culprit.
