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Well, yes, obviously it’s not a good idea to create additional indexes for your content which have different info from the text to try to have those pages rank in search results; this is same issue people have with creating 20 tags for a post also. It creates a ton of content which only competes with the actual post and can sometimes rank higher than the post which is not desirable.
Obviously, you should be using the normal methodologies of having a post be the main focus of your content, and then linking to that from normal home page, normal category pages, and having those category pages linking to the posts.
My answer was based on if you are doing something for a specific reason other than link framing or SERPS “stuffing” simply for ease of use in user access, then YES, doing a no-index for these extra special pages you’re creating to show content excerpts in a different way should be done to avoid SEO penalty, but doing those pages will not HELP your SEO, as the person was saying in that forum.
Ideally, you should follow normal practice for SEO of having categories which highlight the normal “excerpts” for the posts; and then create custom excerpts which get loaded into the normal category structures, home page, date archives, etc.
Hope that made sense.
Just and fyi, there is a difference between pages and posts; where “pages” are generally informational about a company, product, site, staff, et al; while “posts” are articles, opinion, and news.
So, generally you can assign a page to any category like “about us” where a new page is a subset of “about us” — meaning, “about us” can by default be a page category once you create child pages of the parent page. This is how WordPress has always worked to make simple PAGE categories, such as
About Us* (*parent page as menu to the pages on the site, where you add those onto page as links with/without images, etc.)
–> About Our Company
–> Business Hours
–> Our Staff
–> Contact Us
–> Locations
For posts you might have a category called
news
–> posts
|–> daily, weekly, monthly archives
|–> author page(s)
|–> tag pages
So, yes, it’s best to have main information pages as PAGES, but traditional posts which are news, articles, opinion, can certainly be done as posts, and still be perfect for SEO.
This is how YOAST does it on their site, also.
They are simply removing the post categories in URLs,
so this post
https://yoast.com/tracking-seo-google-analytics/
is actually not a page, but a post in the analytics category
https://yoast.com/cat/analytics/
Also, ideally you should use categories *or* tags for best SEO, not both.
While this may not help with your specific case, it might provide some more food for thought in case you’re over thinking your site framework.
Hello!
I followed the recommendation of Yoast (see here) that says that the most important content from a site must be written in pages instead of posts.
So I used the Post Tags and Categories for Pages plugin, since by default your theme cannot link a page to a category.
But I have several issues:
* I cannot “force” the authorbox at the end of the page
* I cannot “force” related articles also for the pages (tag based)
* The breadcrumbs aren’t working as they should (according to the settings from the theme)
So please instruct me what custom changes I need to make for these to work. If you need my website credentials, please say so (it isn’t public, it has a coming soon plugin as it’s in development).
Also, as from a SEO perspective the need to make pages also more “content-friendly” is crucial (again, not my opinion, but Yoast’s), it would be fantastic if the theme would come at some point with advanced settings for pages – to also have categories, tags, related posts and the authorbox at the end (with checkboxes like other settings from “Post Settings” in the theme panel).
PS: Daca raspundeti in romana nu ma supar 🙂 Multumesc 😉
Hi,
Please add the value inside the panel_ads.php file – http://screencast.com/t/om4CzClEd like Emil suggested then use the do_shortcode() function to place the ad you use inside an ad box in theme panel > ads, like this: http://screencast.com/t/yk9RG2diwKyj
Here si the code you have to add:
echo do_shortcode('[td_ad_box spot_id="custom_ad_1"]');
echo td_page_generator::wrap_end();
echo td_page_generator::wrap_start();
Result: http://screencast.com/t/UdpqvFyrOl
Note that my example it’s for the default post template without sidebar, you will have to modify and add the code into which template you want to have this.
Thanks
Hi,
Add this code:
<?php echo human_time_diff( get_the_time('U'), current_time('timestamp') ) . ' ago'; ?>
..to loop-timeline.php file like this: http://screencast.com/t/gnLz0I56B
Result: http://screencast.com/t/GJBTBvtaVSm
Thanks
Hi Christopher,
Actually I would like to share with you something. Around the time I created this thread, I also went to a SEO forum to answer the same question, to see what they have to say about this, and surprisingly, the only person who replied was against it. After reading both of what you guys have had to say, I would actually agree more with you, but it doesn’t help when someone thinks this is totally a bad idea.
Please check the SS (http://s28.postimg.org/7un6a4w4r/convo.jpg) of what he has replied to me.
Thank you.
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GosuSama.
Correct. If you “no index” a “category” page, they should not be indexed, but will still be “followed” unless you also state “no follow” as well. And yes, the posts linked to will still be indexed, but ideally you should be linking to them from some page which is indexed for best results.
e.g., category page -> link to post (no index)
e.g., sub category page -> link to post (indexed)
Really, you’re just doing the same thing which is common of not having the date archives indexed, eg., NOT indexing the daily “date” index of posts, for example.
Hi Christopher,
Thanks for your help.
I’m curious, I wish to no-index a Parent Category, but does this simply mean that the actual category PAGE will not be indexed, yes? The actual posts that are under that Parent Category will not be affected at all, I assume. (likewise, if I did this for sub-categories?)
I think I would agree that some kind of updated docs on how the responsive layouts work, if the only option now is “responsive” or “boxed if you choose a background color.”
While it’s “simpler” to be always on for responsive by default, it seems like a specific example of how it now works would be helpful (HINT: Marius and Lucian, etc.), if the options have been removed from the admin panel.
In theory the 970/1170 concept from BS3 makes sense, but most of the theme thus far has been built on the BS2 framework to keep the IE8 compatibility which BS3 just throws out the window.
Since this is a big concern for many, likely some kind of “how responsive works now” update to the docs would be super duper helpful!
I think the answer would be “yes” based on what you said above.
Hi,
From an SEO point of view, is it okay if I no-index the Sub-Categories of any given Parent Category? I want to rank on Google search for the parent categories because I will be using custom (unique) exercpts that will be completely different than what’s on my individual posts. If I had both Sub and Parent Categories indexed, that would cause duplicate content on both, thus causing issues (I think).
Likewise, if this is fine, can I have it so that I no-index the Parent Category and index the Sub-categories instead?
And if both of these are possible, is it wise to do this? Will there be any consequences or benefits?
PS: I have tags no-indexed currently.
Thanks.
Hi,
I’m not sure if it’s possible to have a link to my Meetup.com profile into the Top Right (social) widget? Or perhaps a way to create a custom button there & put my own image in?
Thank you
@steven Yeah, I was kinda excited to use the block 10 for revamping my homepage after seeing it on the changelog.
Well, not in my experience with magazine sites the past 20 years, and owner of an SEO firm. If that were the case then CNN, LA Times, NY Times, BBC, etc., would not have duplicate links on their sites.
It’s primarily EXTERNAL links which you might be penalized for or “masked links” to the same pages, or DUPLICATE CONTENT – not duplicate links, and “spammy” links on words/phrases to a page.
For example “best cereal in town,” “world’s best breakfast cereal” as links and additional to a page would be bad for SERPS. Simply linking to “about us” three times on one page will not hurt your ranking, as how else would visitors find that content? If you have 40 pages, you might have 40 links in menu bar and again at bottom of page.
Remember the page being linked to should only exist ONCE, and that page should be the canonical link for that content. Linking to it three or four times from one page will not hurt your rankings.
Of course, you can simply test this, by doing an A/B split test, which is how people actually verify the concern, vs. speculation.
Back in 2009, 100 links per page was recommended limit; but that has since changed due to the fact Google’s bots are more sophisticated, and now use your XML sitemap quite extensively for spidering vs having to manually follow all your links from pages.
If Google divides the juice by the number of links, and you had 100 links, and 3 links to same page from home, then arguably that would be 3% of the juice, or perhaps only 1% for being the same link, or the it would be averaged to 30 links x 3 times each, might be 3.5% per link. But it doesn’t really work that way.
Main focus is great original content for the PAGE being linked to. That is the most important element for SERPS, not how many internal links point to a specific page.
But, your mileage may vary.
Having two sets of links to same items, does not impact search rank when they are internal vs external links. Many sites the past 20 years have had top menu links, then bottom of page or sidebar links to things, and this does not hurt “page rank.”
For example, having an “about us” link in the top bar, or link to “services” then a link at bottom of page to “services” doesn’t adversely hurt your ranking. Internal links are only counted once per page, regardless of how many links there are for any “juice.”
Think of a service page where you have a main navigation with links to your service offerings, then links in the middle for more info, links at bottom of page as roundup of site links. Obviously, Google won’t penalize you for linking to your own offerings for information and services, and/or articles.
This is similar to having a page with current news, and a “most popular” box on the sidebar; those links to the most popular stories don’t kill the value of that content in search.
Just some input on this topic. 🙂
Before i created this thread i was triple checking that other(wordpress!) responsive website do this or just mine but seems like its only Newspaper.
Emil G. you are right, there is two menu item in the source code one for desktop and one for mobile and tablet. The main problem other responsive website don’t show the menu twice. That’s why i don’t understand whyyyy Newspaper do this?
The tool i used to check this can be found in my very first post:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:anywebsite-url-or-page-url
Or if you want a tool check it with Lynx web broweser
samratreddy: Algorithm which decide our rank in google, and if this is how google see our site i think it has negative impact.
If google see the same url linked twice in one page. Google gonna follow the first and ignore the second link, but at the end your onpage seo score gonna be lower.
Im sure google wont penalize you just because of this, but it can be an extra factor which makes your not rank.
Hi,
I have a similar issue. Getting a 404 when I use the breadcrumb link.
Example of the structure on my local site:
Made a page for the forums titled: domain/community with the bbpress template selected.
Made a forum with name titled: Test 1
Made a topic for the above forum titled : ‘First topic test’
Starting from the forums main page: domain/community, breadcrumb reads:
Home > Community
With the Forum ‘Test 1’ listed below the search bar. – All is ok. 🙂
Then selecting ‘Test 1’ forum. The forum opens and displays link to the topic ‘First topic test’, the breadcrumb now shows as:
Home > Forums > Test 1
(Note, even if you change the root slug for the forums to say ‘community’ it still displays in the breadcrumb as ‘Forums’ at this stage, but thats a separate issue I’m having).
At this point in the breadcrumb both ‘Forums’ and ‘Test 1’ are links which both go to domain/forums/forum/test-1
Selecting the topic ‘First topic test’ opens the topic. With the url as ‘domain/forums/topic/first-topic-test’
The breadcrumb now shows as:
‘Home > Forums > Test 1’
The topic has not been added to the breadcrumb.
The link on the ‘test 1’ element of the breadcrumb is:
domain/forums/topic/test-1 but produces a 404 as ‘test 1’ is a forum, not a topic.
Whilst the ‘Forums’ link of the breadcrumb is to the page I am already on ‘domain/forums/topic/first-topic-test’.
I’m not sure where it’s going wrong. Any help much appreciated.
Hi,
Just remove the div used by the respective device, for example if you don’t want the ad on mobiles remove the div that has td-visible-phone class in it.
Thank you, Emil G.
Thanks Lucian!
Everything is working perfect!
Hi,
You can change the chars per line from here (for the normal slide): http://screencast.com/t/MNQoafXK
Use this css to change the date background color:
.td_normal_slide .slide-meta .slide-meta-author {
background-color: blue !important;
}
Should work like this: http://screencast.com/t/N6lLSandUb58
For alinging the date and category please use this css:
.iosSlider .slide-meta-author {
position: relative;
top: -3px;
}
Please send your site’s URL so I can inspect this if this dose not work.
Thanks
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This reply was modified 11 years by
Lucian.
Hi,
I have tested this and didn’t find any issues using the latest theme version.
Please make sure you use the code like this: http://screencast.com/t/n0RuPw3rRpQG
Also follow this guide on how to manage ads: https://forum.tagdiv.com/ads/ get the code from the example and try it in each ad box like shown in the guide.
Hope this helps!
Thanks
Hi,
I believe you refer to this post formats which add padding to post’s content: http://screencast.com/t/A1o36furj
I have checked this and seems to work fine: http://screencast.com/t/vVHHQtWB2ti
Please make sure you select the content to which you want to add the padding at and then select the format you want to use.
Please let me know if this is not the issue you refer too and provide an example and your site’s URL, a screenshot would help also.
Thanks
Hi,
You can use this code in loop.php file like this: http://screencast.com/t/lI3oL0TV0O6
Replace the ‘207’ with your category ID in which you would want the block to be showed. Also use the do_shortcode() function to add the block widget as you like, just replace the short-code from my example with your own.
Hope this helps!
Here is the code I used:
if (is_category('226')) {
echo do_shortcode('[vc_row][vc_column width="1/1"][td_block9 sort="random_posts" limit="5"][/vc_column][/vc_row]');
}
Thanks
I’m not doing that well is search engines and i’m trying to figure it out what could be the problem.
I just found something interesting which can be one of thousands of problem what makes my site not rank.
When i run a check(text-only version) on my website i see the main navigation menu appear twice.
Menu1
Menu2
Menu3
Menu4
Logo
Menu1
Menu2
Menu3
Menu4
Which is just Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Why your theme doing this?
You can check it by yourself on any website indexed by google.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:anywebsite-url-or-page-url