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Christopher is a long time WordPress user. Anything else you need to know is private ;-) I *do not* work for TagDiv, but I've been using their themes since late 2013.
simchris
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Did you update plugins included with theme also?

simchris
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I think you have to look at the changelog and see if any of the child files got changed. This is why I don’t use child themes; as sometimes with major updates the child theme changes along with the main theme, which kind of defeats the purpose in my opinion. 🙂

simchris
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I think you can do that, and likely you are redirecting the old site to the new one ?

But TagDiv will answer when they can.

simchris
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You may need to update the child theme — see changelog; try launching the main theme only.

You also need to update plugins as well as theme!

simchris
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Did you also update the booster plugin included with the theme update?

simchris
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I think there are plugins to make this happen … no idea, actually.

simchris
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Fun fact from an article on CNET
“Look for a green thunderbolt in Google search results to find out which sites are part of the new project.”

simchris
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One trick you can do is to move all the css/js to footer and then use the critical css ghenerator to put all “above the fold” code inline in the head area — I do this on our main business site for example.

See my optimization post in the best of forums section for more info on the critical css generator.

There is also a WP plugin I use on some sites which moves all js to footer automatically out of the head using wp enqueue, might be alternative to the speed booster plugin.

simchris
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Cloudflare will likely add an exception for /amp/ layer to not “rewrite” that. (You *might* want to poke them about that, as a customer!)

I was worried mod_pagespeed might mess it up, but that worked with no issue.

simchris
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RTFM:
how to add ‘featured image’ support:
https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp/blob/master/readme.md#featured-image

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COMPATIBILITY NOTE
The following plugins have been known to cause issues with this plugin:

Cloudflare (Rocket Loader; modifies the output of the AMP page, which breaks validation.)

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simchris
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I suppose I should put a link to “how to get the shim” at the end of my tutorial thread 🙂

simchris
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I am keeping my thread updated, for those who care …. 🙂

simchris
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@Brain916

Hi, right now we’re not worried about that (ads), as this is rolling out in BETA this week for Google (supposedly today), so really right now we’re more concerned with being on the front end of the roll-out vs buried in the tail end.

I will worry about ads later on … 🙂
That can be implemented by folks who want to do that, but right now we’re just making sure it works at all “properly” and gets indexed, to see what happens as it rolls out.

For example the related posts text only plugin we use, works fine. The social sharing item we used does not. I’ll have to add a CDN call for the FontAwesome font, probably to the code.

simchris
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Note, there is update plugin 0.3.1 today (2/24); also the “Yoast SEO Glue” plugin is now in the WordPress.org repository for auto-install from WP panel or FTP without having to mess with the github dev version!

For those using YOAST SEO + AMP, get this:
https://wordpress.org/plugins/glue-for-yoast-seo-amp/

In my test pages, the “image” works when loaded/placed between paragraphs but didn’t work when it was a featured image loaded on page outside the actual post meta.

If using the YOAST SEO GLUE addon for Yoast SEO, it looks like that will pick up the description and also make sure featured image (fallback to OG image) will be inserted into the code.

Be sure to read the threads for the plugin on WordPress.org (for both plugins).

In my tests in December I found the social plugin I was using didn’t work with AMP, as the FontAwesome font would not load and hence had broken elements for sharing.

I’ll be testing AMP with the Simple Local Avatars plugin, which is the one I happen to use for local hosting of author pix.

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NOTE THIS IS EVOLVING AS WE SPEAK
I just got ping back to help debug the alternate wp-content folder path bug, so will be following up with them on that today to help fix that issue.

simchris
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There are plugins, and also things like Gravity Forms that allow that. You might also look at user roles for that.

If you’re talking about “customers” with WooCommerce, there are WC specific plugins that allow that after a payment is completed, such as for service providers.

simchris
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You might want to hire a developer if you plan to use two themes at one time, as that is way outside the scope of the support offered around here, but TagdDiv likely have a better answer — I don’t work here 🙂

simchris
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I think I forgot the link to the AMP plugin customizations / help info:
https://github.com/Automattic/amp-wp/blob/master/readme.md

And, the BETA AMP plugin for YOAST SEO
https://github.com/Yoast/yoastseo-amp

One bug I have reported, is that the plugin will *not* work at all, when you rename the wp-content folder to anything else (I had this custom setup thing I’m working on as /assets/ — for a reason I won’t share here, but related to integrating several other installs of WP on same site at some point).

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simchris
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Hi, Lucian
you don’t need to do anything with the theme at this time, as the plugin being updated by Automattic is theme agnostic and they have the manpower and connections with Google and are keeping it moving forward for their VIP clients (e.g., TIME magazine, etc.).

Newsmag and Newspaper both WORK with the plugin just fine, so at this time nothing theme authors need to “do” as long as nothing being injected into header to “break” the /amp/ functionality.

Example with Newsmag (a few versions back, and not fully optimized due to me messing with mod_pagespeed and trying to move server to https/2 and realizing we need full OS reload, which I’m not quite ready to do yet due to having to offload all sites, update server, then reload sites! UGH!!!)::

http://californianewswire.com/in-new-book-soviet-union-born-author-details-compelling-story-of-bondage-to-freedom/amp/

So, at this time — I’m “suggesting” you might make this thread a sticky one, and/or add to tutorials as you will be getting a lot of forum posts on this as Google rolls this out ostensibly for March 1.

Nobody “has to do this” — but many folks will “want to do this” — hence my adding this thread so we don’t see 50 posts next month on this same topic 😉

Feel free to “sticky” this for the next week, to lessen the torment.

simchris
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Your host may have a limit set you cannot override, or they mave system set to not allow local overrides. Most hosting panels allow you to set php settings withiut manual edit of file. Ticket to your hosting provider recommended.

simchris
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SHOULD YOU DO IT OR NOT?
Note that adding AMP support is *not* necessary, required, and might not even be the best solution to add to your site for mobile, if you already have a well optimized mobile post setup, want to retain certain plugins, social links and ads, which might not translate well to the AMP format.

For example, initially you might have poor ad support, so if revenue is your main metric, this is something you’ll want to play with, or wait until it is more mature.

Google will start support on Feb. 24, 2016.

AMP IS NOT SUPPORTED BY MANY YET, GOOGLE AND ONE OTHER VENDOR I KNOW OF.
So, for example if your main audience were on Apple iOS, primarily using Safari, might not make sense to worry about this just yet! 🙂

simchris
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If you do search in the forum, you’ll see my prior posts on this topic.

We’ve been using/testing AMP since November *with* the Newsmag theme and works perfectly.

You need to go to the wordpress.org plugin repository and download the AMP plugin from Automattic (the poeple who make WordPress). This plugin is being developed with Google feedback and for VIP WordPress sites.

Right now it only supports “posts” and not “pages” but they are working on it for upcoming release.

If you wish to setup AMP for your site, you should get the PLUGIN and read the docs to setup for your site.

ADMIN: you may wish to add sticky post (*not* this one, perhaps) regarding AMP support, link to the AMP site and the AMP plugin page.

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ACCELERATED MOBILE PAGES (AMP) PROJECT SUPPORT LINKS

AUTOMATTIC AMP PLUGIN
https://wordpress.org/plugins/amp/

Plugin support threads
https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/amp

AMP FAQs
https://www.ampproject.org/docs/support/faqs.html

simchris
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( I would start with B above … ! )

also remember any plugins you have setup should be deactivated, caching cleared, etc.

A plugin might be loading stuff over http … but if you set your entire site to https properly. at least your base CSS would be loading correctly.

simchris
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Be sure to
a) set your domain as https://sitename in the WP settings
b) perhaps set it implicitly in the wp-config.php file (what I did on our site for moving to https)
c) you will also need to resave permalinks once you switch setting to https
d) setup 301 redirect globally for site for any queries to http//* to ==> https://*
e) you will need to search/replace anything in the meta tables like an image manually placed into a post with http link
f) you may need to rebuild all your thumbnails out of paranoia as well

Anyway… that’s what we did.

simchris
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I think WP defaults to the “main” system log-in. So, you would likely need to setup some type of redirect to the “user login” which is different than the main WP login page.

simchris
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Yes, you can install more than one theme on a website, by using sub-folders, and even use the same dbase for both, but that is a bit complex. See the WordPress.org docs for more info.

Of course, you can do almost everything with this theme you can with Flatsome, just different layouts, just like two different types of Root Beer … 🙂

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