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Well, they kind of already have … on various threads.

Right now the *only* solution with Newsmag if you have this CPU spiral of doom is to use the shim plugin, and use VC as little as possible beyond the development portion of your home page. Make sure you have a lot of memory allocated to WordPress (at least 256MB from the wp-config.php file in addition to php.ini setting; you must do both!).

We started to see minor spikes once 4.4.2 came out. Prior to that zero issues. Right now we can use it, but anything later not so good. I can’t imagine if WP Bakery haven’t addressed this ins the 4.5x versions, that they still don’t “get it” and are not solving it — seems to be a “if 90% of people can use, the other 10% oh well …” which isn’t great.

Right now TagDiv is focused on (based on posts I’ve seen):
a) Newspaper 5 w/ features of Newsmag + better grid + new version of API.
b) Next Shim beta for use with Newsmag *and* Newspaper.
c) Newsmag 1.8 with bug fixes and minor updates/tweaks.
d) Dev work on possible alternative to using Visual Composer.

So — at the moment if your site dies with VC 4.42 immediately, then it’s clear you might need to go back one more iteration, and/or stick with 1.6 of Newsmag vs 1.71.

I have 2 sites still working with 1.6 and 4.42 without shim, and doing okay, but they are fairly low traffic sites. I have 3 sites on 1.71 with VC442 and the shim, and 2 of these are our larger main traffic sites which were killing MySQL in batches of every 10 minutes or so going from green to yellow to red, and back. Then CPU death.

Not sure any of that helps … not much TagDiv can do beyond the shim, and possibly providing earlier versions of VC to try for your system. Since they don’t develop VC, it’s not something they can “fix” for anybody beyond the reports they have provided to the Bakery folks as a developer/licensor in hopes of solution (and yet to see one).

Some theme devs are already leaving VC in favor of in house solutions or simpler things like Siteorigin builder (free/open source), etc. (( We’re using Page Builder by SiteOrigin with a lean WP home brew Bootstrap 3 theme for a client reporting system along with Advanced Custom Fields, and works well so far for that … )).

Anyway…. I’m sure TagDiv folk will have some reply, but likely not far different from the above rantings 🙂

Of course, it’s possible that the next version of Visual Composer will be better “optimized” …. frankly, I’m amazed they are not working with an example “DOA” server setup, reading the error logs, and trying to find what bit of code is causing the death spiral, and then FIXING it. But I’m behind on stuff for my own business, so can’t really point fingers on that 😉

Well, those are issues with WooCommerce, not the thene. So, you likely want to contact Woo for support, use their support forum, or perhaps join one of the great Facebook ‘groups’ for help with WooCommerce.

Obviously — those two errors are self explanatory. You need to contact your hosting provider.

For Visual Composer, perhaps try the full reset procedure from my sticky topic on moving to new template. Note my section on how to address the “500 error of doom” if the above suggestion didn’t work.

See bottom this post for how to recover from 500 error:
https://forum.tagdiv.com/topic/how-to-guide-to-moving-from-newspaper-to-newsmag/

i did all of this and error 500 still here ^^

I use woocomerce plugin to check server status and i have 2 problems but i don’t know if it can explain the 500 error for Visual composer

Here are the 2 errors :

– Your server does not have the SOAP Client class enabled – some gateway plugins which use SOAP may not work as expected.

– wp_remote_get() failed. The WooCommerce plugin updater won’t work with your server. Contact your hosting provider. Status code: 403

Can u tell me ?

Are you asking about how to do a Featured Image or setting up your home page with that block?

For the big block on your home page, just use Visual Composer to add the “Big Slide” block. Then just change the settings to your liking.

Well, the shim isn’t going to replace visual composer; it’s a stop gap for those having CPU death spirals. For VC general issues, try going back to the earlier version of VC on your site (e.g., 4.4.2), which you should have from older versions unless you are first time user.

Or, if you choose to use the shim, be aware it won’t work for some of the more oddball things in VC; and it’s not optimized for the Newspaper modules – as far as I know.

For example, working here just fine:
CaliforniaNewswire.com

I have slider, lots of modules on page, and they do work.

Only a few things I was using before do not work with the shim, and I’ve just worked around that.

Sort of too bad as VC had zero problems last year and it’s only been the newer versions causing issues this year (ironically with a ton of junk added people were demanding without knowing how it would impact their little VPNs and $10/month accounts….). All the hacks to WordPress for security this year likely haven’t helped either as obviously a lot of stuff got moved around.

In any case — I’d wait for an official “can I use this with Newspaper 4” answer, as my thinking would be “maybe.”

Nope.
That was only if you somehow wanted to automagically update that stuff …

I never did any phpadmin thing to my sites on updating Newsmag… ever!

That was a special case. For us, we just had to fix one block that changed, and that wss it; just updated that, resaved home page. Done.

I think the MySQL thing was for folks who had built massive custom pages, categories, etc., using Visual Composer — in our case we only used it for home page and nothing else.

• This reply was modified 11 years by simchris.

Hi,

a)i tried all things your listed options, except “you have to set a featured video”, nothing works.
I dont understand what is meant by “set a featured video”.
Do we have to set every single video imported to the site, to featured image? but this doesn’t make sense.
We use a video robot and it imports different videos from youtube etc.
The index page shows these different videos and they change hourly. In the hundreds.
But still after clicking on them it opens the page but there is no video.

I didn’t set up a single post page. We just installed the theme and child theme as in documentation,
and loaded the settings and demos. http://www.yougothype.com is our page. i hope this is the link you want.
Please help.

b)Infinite Load doesn’t seem to work on any page.
Again we followed the email steps you sent but they didn’t work.
Our settings:
In Visual Composer for Main Page/Index page:
Parent – Homepage Infinite Scroll
Template- Homepage Blank
Used Block 8
-multiple category filter(hollywood, rides, luxury)
-Random Posts

Limit Post Number-5 (this is set automatically)
Pagination – infinite load is set
(load more was also tried. this shows on page. but when clicked its shows load circle but nothing more is added or changed. so this doesn’t work either. FYI.)
But please help with the Infinite Load.

Without these the site is useless 🙁

best regards,
Bora

Well.. note that for a “lot” of folks they are not having this “CPU death” issue. But also a lot are. Also there were a lot of conflicts with VC 4.5 and Yoast SEO.

So, not everybody having this issue. I know Radu has been trading email with the Bakery folks to share this experiences (and my server data presumably).

From what I understand, and might not be accurate their plans are:
a) the shim provides a solution for those of us with the CPU spiral of doom, as stop gap – works fine with VC 4.42 on my box — no problem for short term use at all as long as I’m not getting huge traffic spike ( so I check my CPU usage before messing with it )
b) they want to push Newspaper 5 asap; which has the threads of things from Newsmag (sticky sidebar, more layout options for home page; control over the blocks/images, etc.); and presumably will include VC 4.5.4 or whatever.
c) Newsmag 5 would then be a dev track for possibly building their own page builder that does not use VC at all.

So, there isn’t going to be a “death of TagDiv” or themes not working. Mine are working just fine and no need to upgrade anything “right now” for me. So, only reason I upgraded to 1.71 from 1.6 was for security patches.

But try using your old version of Visual Composer — the issue is with VC not the theme, but there is some bizarre combination of things that our particular server does *not* like at all. So, in my case using the 4.4.2 for short periods does work just fine; quickly tweak, then switch off VC, and huzahhh! I won’t install any VC version newer than that. Period. Luckily I’m not using VC for posts or pages; only the HOME PAGE … so in my case unless home page getting whacked, usually not big issue. I also have the addition in my functions.php to NOT load VC code on post pages.

So, delete new version of VC you installed;
reinstall older version of VC (any 4.4x version should work in theory)
leave shim active
turn on VC, and edit your page/layout.

Obviously you should be deactivating any caching stuff while messing with VC changes.

Anyway… mine is working ….

• This reply was modified 11 years by simchris.

@ShowbizCool

as noted in my posts; you need to activate the Visual Composer to “edit” your home page again or anything else using VC. The shim just provides the CSS for the TagDiv modules so they work — there is no other way to edit VC layouts except with VC.

So, you can leave the shim active, turn on VC, then go edit stuff, save, then turn off VC.

That is what I have been doing. Luckily you don’t generally need to keep changing your homepage layout all the time; just tweak stuff. And of course, a sidebar for home page can be edited from appearance > widgets without VC being active.

Hope that helped 🙂

TIP: use the VC version from January (e.g., that came with NewsMag 1.6; 4.4.2) if you have that, as that does allow me to edit stuff without crashing box. I am *not* using the latest VC on any of our sites for anything.