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You can’t make a page identical to your desktop version for AMP as that defeats the purpose of the mobile friendly AMP framework. It’s supposed to be “lean and mean.”

I feel like none of you are actually listening to what I’m saying.

I’m NOT advocating that the AMP version be identical to the DESKTOP version.

I’m advocating it be identical to the mobile plugin version provided by tagDiv which, as I understand it, was developed to be “lean and mean.”

I don’t want a responsive version of my site to be the AMP version. I don’t want responsiveness at all.

I want tagDiv’s mobile plugin with AMP compliance. That is it. Until this happens, I will continue to advocate for it. And, for the third time, the first news theme for WordPress that can offer a mobile experience (NOT a desktop experience) that is also AMP compliant will win my business.

To be validated as AMP content, it must pass Google’s AMP validation, and then added to separate “map” for mobile users in SERPS, and then they are presented *only* the AMP formatted version and NO other version. Also they get a lightning bolt element in SERPS to identify it’s AMP formatted and hence “speedy.”

The only reason we’re trying to explain to you how it actually works as some of us have actually been doing it for a year and a half.

You can’t make a page identical to your desktop version for AMP as that defeats the purpose of the mobile friendly AMP framework. It’s supposed to be “lean and mean.”

If you want a desktop experience on mobile, it can’t be an AMP version.

But you likely need to experiment with this yourself to see “what actually happens” vs the theoretical idea you have in your head.

Spend some time on the Google AMP docs for more information.

Anyway — just food for thought.

Theme devs not going to add built-in support, likely, for many of the reasons already covered here by everybody who has already been down this road and are “doing it right now.”

AMP needs custom classes, compliant post meta code, special ad unit setup, custom hooks for plugins, no use of javascript stuff, https-only elements, etc., etc.

I’m out !

I’m not disputing the fact that the AMP templates can be edited. I make many customizations to mine and have to make them each time the plugin is updated.

What I would PREFER is the following:

— Someone searches Google for content and sees my site in the search results.
— Because they’re on a mobile device, they’re presented with a link to an AMP-compliant version.
— When they click the link, they are taken to a page that looks identical to any other page on my site when viewed on a mobile device.

I firmly believe that the first WordPress news-focused theme that can offer this experience will win big. I simply don’t understand why anyone here is defending a less-than-optimal experience for website visitors who come in by clicking on an AMP link in mobile search results.

Google rank has a tiny impact for AMP

We rank very highly and hit News carousels against national titles (we are small independent) with this setup

White hat SEO and Yoast – that ranks

Using Accelerated Mobile Pages plugin (Khaludi) AND WordPress AMP plugin AND Yoast Glue (if using Yoast WordPress SEO) all work perfectly for me and have done for months – ALL used together never failed – some cutomisation options built in too.

Thanks for your note. This is the solution I’m using.

But as I tried to state in my reply above, until the experience using an AMP-compliant page is indistinguishable from a non-AMP page, the solution remains incomplete as far as I’m concerned.

I appreciate your thoughtful response. I think it’s misleading to suggest that AMP “replaces” the mobile theme. It’s offered as an alternative to the mobile theme and with proper implementation, Google will find the AMP version, show it in mobile search results and rank it higher than a corresponding non-AMP (but still optimized for mobile) page. On my site, we use AMP for SEO purposes only and as much as we can, we direct visitors to the regular mobile version of our site because this is the experience we prefer and want our visitors to have.

Just like theme authors keep up with the ins and outs of changes to WordPress and how their themes interact with various plugins, I don’t think it’s too much to ask that they keep up with AMP.

There are many plugins like AMP for WP that take what Automattic is doing with their “agnostic” plugin and greatly enhance it. For example, just in the time that I’ve been using AMP for WP, the authors have added optimizations specific to Newspaper as well as support for plugins that do not display properly with Automattic’s plugin like Tobias Bäthge’s awesome TablePress. This is all done, of course, without breaking AMP validation.

I’m not suggesting that the Newspaper developers start from scratch. Plugin authors like those behind AMP for WP have shown that AMP functionality can be extended using Automattic’s plugin as a base.

My idea would be for tagDiv’s mobile theme plugin to work in the same way — essentially allowing Automattic’s plugin to do the heavy lifting and adding Newspaper-specific design and functionality on top of it.

My website, The Apex, chose Newspaper and continues to use it because of the awesome experience afforded by the mobile theme plugin. However, that experience becomes diluted when the best experience can’t get the best search ranking due to Google’s insistence on AMP compliance.

I have seen very good AMP implementations on other sites that aren’t based on WordPress — so good, in fact, that it was nearly impossible to tell the difference between AMP and non-AMP. This demonstrates to me that it is indeed possible to offer a fully functional and well-designed experience while keeping in compliance with the evolving AMP standard.

Seeing these sites should make it abundantly clear that what is offered by Automattic’s plugin isn’t sufficient. Yes, it creates pages that validate against the AMP standard. But it doesn’t make the THEME compliant with AMP, only the site’s content. I’m doing a disservice to my site’s visitors by giving them a less-than-optimal experience. I want them to use Newspaper’s mobile theme and tagDiv should want them to use it too — but that’s not going to happen as long as AMP pages rank higher than others and tadDiv continues to see AMP as a distraction.

The best news theme for WordPress, which Newspaper undoubtedly is, will not remain the best for long if it cannot deliver a best-in-class AMP experience for its paying customers like me. SEO is critically important for sites that use themes like Newspaper and denying the importance of AMP as well as the experience when viewing an AMP-compliant page is a big mistake. tagDiv should not be content allowing the AMP experience for sites using Newspaper to be dictated by a third party.

The first major news-style theme for WordPress that offers built-in support for AMP with no difference in the experience over non-AMP mobile pages will be a winner in this space. I can’t help but think that tagDiv is missing a huge opportunity here.

Kley/Ben

Using Accelerated Mobile Pages plugin (Khaludi) AND WordPress AMP plugin AND Yoast Glue (if using Yoast WordPress SEO) all work perfectly for me and have done for months – ALL used together never failed – some cutomisation options built in too.

Advanced AMP ads add-on for the first one also runs with them for extra Adsense ads
Pat

No. The AMP plugin replaces the mobile theme with the AMP version, where portions of the content get cached on Google servers under high demand as a CDN structure.

If you plan on using AMP as your main mobile element, then the theme mobile support is only used for those instances where AMP is not used.

You can modify the AMP templates however you wish.

Desktop => theme template
Mobile => theme template/mobile (optional)
Mobile AMP => AMP template via plugin

AMP has very specific requirements outside the scope of the theme.

For example, WordPress allowed you to use the visual editor to add <p style="center"> which is bad HTML in modern usage. This will cause AMP validation to fail.

Theme authors cannot spend the time to support the ins/outs of AMP which change over time, and for which there would be unreasonable amount of support time provided to those who don’t understand how WP works, how AMP works, and can’t RTFM.

It ONLY makes sense to use an “agnostic” plugin like the one from Automattic (we have been using it since Nov 2015). This puts the brunt of development/compliance on the backs of WordPress devs and not theme devs, since it gets used for all the tier 1 “VIP” WordPress sites like TIME magazine, etc.

Really — anybody who wants to implement AMP should look into using the AMP plugin, then learn to tweak per the requirements as that is “best” way to go to save yourself major headaches, pain, suffering, and torment!

It’s neither economically feasible nor support-smart to build entire AMP support into the theme, which is already provided by the plugin.

(( I don’t work here. ))

The official AMP plugin offered by WordPress greatly limits the functionality of the Newspaper theme. Multi-page posts appear as one page, Smart Lists do not function properly and many other elements are missing.

I have asked the Newspaper developers to introduce native AMP support in their theme but they do not seem interested.

Again, the official AMP plugin is not a suitable solution for most instances. What is needed is an AMP-compliant version of Newspaper’s mobile theme plugin.

Daer Bogdan,
i have all of that and my wp administrators told me they never saw that some theme made so many request to the data base. They did analise and per one visitor is 1400 queries to base and normal is from 50 to 200..its too much and when we put one picture also theme made 10 more pictures..

3 times my theme broken i lose all data baners and everything i must put all from the start
and now some function stop to work for example on some sliders on main page not work u can go left or right.. then u cant put word in searh place for searching and some more…
what can be problem then

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2uyom85&s=9#.WNo7HFWLSUk

• This reply was modified 9 years by Web_Piri.

Hello Catalin,

Thanks for the solution but it isn’t what I’m looking for 🙂 I would like to make gallery with for example 4 images and the result is like this (please look at 4 pictures below main photo):

https://motoday.pl/2017/03/02/nowy-suv-marki-ds-jeden-ze-szczegolow-mogli-zrobic-francuzi/

They are open in some kind of Lightbox or Lightbox – I don’t know. In this example I switched Gallery Type to Default and linking to URL but as You can see, linking to URL doesn’t work.

The result should be like on my another site where I haven’t got any additional plugin with lightbox or somethink similiar. This second site is using default WordPress gallery and when You click on the image in gallery, You will go to that kind of site:

http://planetagracza.pl/wiedzmin-2-pozegnanie-bialego-wilka-nowe-screeny-modyfikacji/wiedzmin-pozegnanie-bialego-wilka-3-2/

Sorry for my english and I hope that my message is clear 🙂

Greetings,
Robert

Here’s a sample of an old post with [divide] after the image gallery

http://homesoftherich.net/2015/06/22500-square-foot-newly-built-mountaintop-stone-mansion-in-provo-ut/